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Adjusted the valves using the TDC method with satisfactory results but I find it somewhat difficult and takes too long.
The way I’ve always adjusted valves is with a remote starter button and bumping the starter. When the exhaust open, adjust the intake. Then when the intake fully open and starting to close, adjust the exhaust. EOIC Is either correct? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) If not please explain. |
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I like the crusty method. Put it in fifth, roll the wheel till a valve of choice is completely compressed (or use the starter, but I think the wheel is easier). Then adjust the opposite valve. So if you compress the exhaust valve on cylinder 4 you would adjust the exhaust valve on cylinder 2.
No TDC, no hoping it is as loose as it can be, no losing track of where you are or have been. |
Kansas 914 |
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I like the crusty method. Put it in fifth, roll the wheel till a valve of choice is completely compressed (or use the starter, but I think the wheel is easier). Then adjust the opposite valve. So if you compress the exhaust valve on cylinder 4 you would adjust the exhaust valve on cylinder 2. No TDC, no hoping it is as loose as it can be, no losing track of where you are or have been. From the Cap'n: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=28758 |
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En Garde! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 13,783 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() ![]() |
The way I’ve always adjusted valves is with a remote starter button and bumping the starter. When the exhaust open, adjust the intake. Then when the intake fully open and starting to close, adjust the exhaust. EOIC (IMG:style_emoticons/default/splat.gif) This is not the way to adjust valves. You have no idea at what part of the cycle the valve is in, and the valves do overlap (one is opening while the other is closing). When you adjust a valve, it needs to be FULLY off the cam lobe. Do not adjust valves this way! I also use the Crusty method posted here. I find it a lot faster to not have to get out from under the car. But of the methods you listed, you need to be using the TDC method. Zach |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,559 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
Cap'n method, both valve covers off, remote starter button. Print out the card so you don't have to think about it.
Easy peasy. |
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,379 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch ![]() ![]() |
Nothing wrong with the Capt’n method but it needs to be acknowledged that its application is limited to the cam lobe sharing of the VW horizontally opposed engines.
The tried and true TDC of the compression stroke method, following the engine firing order is universally applicable. |
emerygt350 |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,227 Joined: 20-July 21 From: Upstate, NY Member No.: 25,740 Region Association: North East States ![]() |
I don't even bother with the 'fast way' using the table of what is adjustable at any given rocked valve. Less chance of me screwing something up, and it really doesn't take long to just go around and rocking the opposites one at a time.
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,255 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
just had a look at the wise words of the Cap, looks like it would take a year
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,209 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
I spent a good deal of time analyzing Krusty's method
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&...t&p=2793467 I believe this makes things a bit clearer |
Literati914 |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,095 Joined: 16-November 06 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 7,222 Region Association: Southwest Region ![]() |
The simplest way that I've found and IMHO, for the actual adjustment is:
TDC #1 = check Int. & Ex. @ #1 / Int. @ #2 / Ex. @ #4 TDC #3 = check Int. & Ex. @ #3 / Int. @ #4 / Ex. @ #2 done. here's a good video that includes a simple drawing : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfkxlHWZmxM |
Artfrombama |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 358 Joined: 21-January 24 From: North Alabama Member No.: 27,870 Region Association: South East States ![]() ![]() |
Thanks to everyone that responded.
I'm wishing I had paint marked my fan and flywheel when the engine was out and the heads were off, find and mark TDC of all the pistons. I think I will continue to use the EOIC method, most familiar to me and I feel just as accurate. I think all the methods discussed here give satisfactory results, totally personal preference. |
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